braid or mono for uptiding

Wrecking is pretty hard on lines and braid doesn't go huge on abrasion. Nothing really unless in very deep water where the low stretch comes into effect. [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Dreaming of Norwegian Cod and Haddock.:busted_co. If you’ve hung around your local marinas long enough, chances are you’ve heard the debate between monofilament and braided line for bass fishing with topwaters. Braided line has a ton of benefits, including increased casting distance, thinner diameter, it’s stronger than mono of the same test, and it allows you to feel every nibble and twitch of your bait or lure. Similar problems exist with braid jamming in its own coils when uptiding with braid and a multiplier from the boat. "Braid's strength is straight up and down," says John Drouet, sales manager for HiLiner (Diamond Fishing Products). A forum community dedicated to fishing and boat owners and enthusiasts. 15lb braid is going to be hard to manage on a casting reel for anyone and if you are having trouble with 50lb braid then I would suggest trying like 10-12kb mono to start. The results were spectacular,conclusive and were not what We expected- Myself using braid could catch only dogs ,and lots of them, Lionel on the other hand caught only cods and lots of them !! Ps, The rod has a new tip, so you can stop feeling guilty now John. Come join the discussion about fishing guides, bait, safety, gear, tackle, tips, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! That's because pound for pound, braid has a much smaller diameter than monofilament does. Add to Buddy List. IMO its the one time you actually want the tide to pull your line hard rather than cut through it. Each type of line has specific uses, according to Marty Stone. Mono is also far more abrasion resistant. Braid can cut through your finger like cheese wire. Further, braid has less abrasion resistance than monofilament. In recent years, uptide rods have become more like modern beach casters with unsuitable (imho) power tips. My Confidence in mono gives a slight edge over braid for me,,just my experience in the waters I fish. Braids are more expensive. Braided line, made up of hundreds of small fibers, soaks up water very quickly and sinks right away. Sinks; Mono is cheaper than braid, yard for yard – although braid might be cheaper in the long run (more about this later). Bronze Joined: 07 Jun 2004 Status: Offline Points: 51 I have heard from so many that braid is the preferred choice when jigging for kingfish which I agree with. Re: braid The strength of the braid wont affect the stretch overly UHMWPE (Ultra high molecular weight polyethylene) the stuff most modern super braids are made from won't stretch much different 10lb or 100lb. I keep several rigs spooled up with both types.. Will the rest of the crew be mates or strangers? Much bigger diameter than braid for similar breaking strength. :laugh::laugh::laugh: Hi John, as for that near record fish that i dropped for you, i was taken back by the elastic properties of your trace. Mono has a lot of give due to it's elasticity. You can use really strong braid to reduce fish breaking off. braid defeats the object of uptiding...you want the line to catch in the tide thus pulling you weight into the seabed putting a lovely bend in your rod tip ....braid will work but mono is better downtiding braid rules cutting through the tide meaning you need a fraction of the weight to hold bottom that mono requires Braid is much more resistant to abrasions, which means that you'll never have to lose sleep again thinking about the one that got away. Mono has the better potential to catch the tide and keep the bow in the line, of which of course you need for uptiding or cheaper thick braid. tried the braid on a boat out of dungy,uptiding in 140 feet of water.held bottom no problem..could see every little tap and nibble,things you dont see with mono....skipper said he had seen some very big fish lost on braid...and if you get a birds nest ,then it is game over.i have not used braid since. Hi All , before someone says look at old posts i have and still not sure what would be best for Bristol channel any channel regulars got an opinion . Bearing in mind fishing the outside of the breakwater is still uptiding, the results of this exercise always put me off uptiding with braid for cods on my boat .To this day I still use mono for uptiding and braid for downtiding on the boat and will not use it ever from the beach!!. ... Im trying to cut down on having straight mono and FC line types by using braid as a mainline , then adding the proper leader type based on application (i.e. Mono is cheaper and has more stretch which helps out in a few different circumstances. Hope this helps. could be a sticking point if the latter. :doh: how about catching some fish??? However, here’s one drawback to using braid: it’s complicated to put on a spinning reel. Come join the discussion about fishing guides, bait, safety, gear, tackle, tips, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Hi Fella if you are fishing down the side of the boat use nylon cast towards the bow of the boat and feel for the lead hitting bottom then lets loads of line out to form a big bow then put the reel back in gear the tide should put a nice bend in your rods tip if you are fishing off the stern you can use braid just lowwer your bait down and bounce your bait down tide you do this by leaving your reel in free spool and cover the spool with your thumb again once you feel bottom clamp down lift your rod let line out until you feel bottom and repeat until you get a take some times you dont feel the bite its when you lock the spool you feel the extra weight on your line just click the reel into gear and wind in slowly do not pump the fish just keep steady pressure on and it will come towards you shout out Fish-On this should get the skipper ready with the gaff just going back when fishing over the side your rod tip should have a nice bend in the tip should you get a slack-line bite your rod tip will spring back just pick your rod up and wind in fast until you can feel the fish dont strike just wind in slowly keeping pressure on the fish hope this helps you its a great way to catch fish bait wise take squid blacks cart and mussel and razor tightlines Alain, braid defeats the object of uptiding...you want the line to catch in the tide thus pulling you weight into the seabed putting a lovely bend in your rod tip ....braid will work but mono is better, Thanks for the answers fellas , confirmed what i thought mono it is cheers Simon. Today’s anglers use braid for numerous applications — not only for its tensile strength, but because of the way it behaves on the spool, particularly with spinning reels. Before going into specifics, here are the main obvious differences in braid over mono: Braid has less stretch. The age old question, is braid or mono better, or should I use braid or mono? "Braid breaks down when the fibers abrade. Mono may be affordable but it degrades faster than braid. Anyway, where I'm going with this is I'm thinking about running braid with a similar diameter to 30lb mono (something like 130lb) just to ensure it runs through the guides properly. knob . I've checked out the Avet pro 30, and with that reel I'll be able to get 500m of braid and a small top shot on. Hi John, excellent read, the banter made up for the lack of fish, Steve cooked those onions to perfection, he should be on Master Chef. just imagine the pull needed to break it. Being slightly permeable, monofilament will absorb a small amount of water over time, causing the line to slowly sink. Quite stiff, especially in … I think having a rod with each mono and braided line is a good idea. Tangles in braid are horrible things to sort out and i think that braid is more prone to tangles. I think if you were a Sun Journalist you could write. I was experimenting with the new breed of braided lines ,on this particular day i was using an Ultima braid, Lionel was using Ultima Tournament mono. For me the advantage is the braid lasts a really long time and lays nice on and off the spool. Send Private Message. Members Profile. Hi Mate, Mono for uptiding and braid for down tide. Hey guys, Just wanna know what you guys like to use for fishing off the rocks, ive always used 25-30lb mono as i worry that the braid will be easily cut on rocks, also have had problems with line twists around my rig when using braid,when i wind in its tangled around the hook and sinker, this is one of the main reasons ive chosen to always use mono. A forum community dedicated to fishing and boat owners and enthusiasts. I would think unless a weak link is used, almost certainly cutting it, would be required:whistling. You need some mono on top to hold the line in the clip. A fixed-spool reel is the answer in both cases. I have been using braid for uptiding for some time now, requires lighter leads and the old style soft tip blank. :crazy: I tried braid for up tiding in the bristol channel around 4 years ago and have used it ever since, although the fused braid seems better than the woven to cast and lasts longer. Mono is more affordable than braid. 2011 Species: Whiting, 5 bearded rockling, dab, codling, flounder, http://s495.photobucket.com/albums/rr314/col175/, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. This is where line diameter comes into play - the diameter is what “catches” water and is the resistance. Quote Reply Topic: kingfish tatics, braid or mono Posted: 22 Aug 2007 at 8:02pm. Mono holds my jig up in the water longer since it doesn’t sink. Every day I live with fear. It has a much smaller diameter than mono and this has a lot of benefits. On the other hand, Pure Fishing's Norris ranks the abrasion resistance of braid higher than mono — of equivalent diameter. It also means i rarely have to use over 5oz of lead except in the biggest of tide runs. On a neap tide, even 20lb I use will hold the boat for a bit. I run 50 lb braid with 30-40 ft of 30# mono top shot on mooching reels and slow action rods. However, what really sets braid apart from mono is how they compare when it comes to diameter. For Your free copy of 'The Bait Pumpers Bible' or for any bait pumping questions, please email Me at the following address (please note my new email address), VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Braid is thin. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Re: Mono or Braid For Crank Baits « Reply #20 on: January 12, 2019, 11:22:07 AM » Went to flouro and havent looked back.Missouri is one big rock.It handles them really well. Anyone use a pennel? Braid combats line twist better than mono or fluoro, and if used in lighter pound tests, it will outcast them as well. Did the Braidy Bunch complain foul with the broken rod tip eye, cant remember. We all use braid on my boat for uptiding in the Bristol Channel. :crazy: Be interesting when that gets caught in a snag. 100 lb braid ,I have a shop and have never stocked it or been asked for it!!! A few years ago Myself and Big Li fished in the Knuckle on Dover Breakwater around November time. I much prefer mono for straylining. the thought of trying to 'pull for a break' when snagged would put the fear of every god under the sun into me!!! Braid also does not hold some knots as well, because it’s slicker than mono (learn to tie a uni knot). We swapped rigs, swapped peg positions ,baits and even rods but the results were still the same- braid = dogs/mono= cods !!!!! i have just loaded up all my reel's with 100lb .55mm bread and it work's for me :1a: 100lb Braid , I take it not for these shores then:bb: Jeez!! Once you breach that finish, the line is compromised." We had a week with Shaun Anning out of Watchet, 8 of us, six on mono, two on braid, all using 8oz grip leads, none of us had any problems. think it is Paul Wells. The ability to crank and pull logs off the bottom, big pike, or whatever else is something a #30 braid can do, but certainly not a #8 mono. [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full frontal lobotomy! Try both of them out and see for yourself which one you prefer. Tarlach. top water / mono) . It's so thin that it won't make a huge difference in the tide flow. Once bitten,twice shy an all that!! The thinner the braid the more it will dig in. The power advantage of braid is obvious. I’ve lost a few big fish due to mono breakoffs and have more confidence that the line won’t break with braids like suffix or fireline. JavaScript is disabled. Question for those guys using mono for uptiding. JavaScript is disabled. 4 Braid cannot be used efficiently on a multiplier reel, especially for long-range casting. Not only does the mono catch the tide better i find that braid can some times be harder to cast in windy conditions and a birds nest in braid is a big problem. How many of you use braid + mono leader for poppers and walking baits with good success for top water ? Bearing in mind fishing the outside of the breakwater is still uptiding, the results of this exercise always put me off uptiding with braid for cods on my boat .To this day I still use mono for uptiding and braid for downtiding on the boat and will not use it … Braid vs Mono for Surf Fishing. Abrasion resistance is very important when fishing over a rocky or snaggy bottom. Many thanks Simon or should i ring skipper ? Sounds like you had some fun out there John. Mono is less expensive than braid, but it is also very sensitive to salinity, heat, humidity, and sunlight, making it deteriorate rapidly after a few months of use. The braid was fished off the stern and the mono up the sides. Mono sinks much better than braid does, which helps if you have a light current in your swim or very wary fish. I use both mono and braid,, depends on the set-up for me..Floats or no floats, current or no current,,etc. Mono bunch sabotaged Brady bunch tackle, and giant cod catch !!! In the Bristol Channel we have the second biggest tides in the world & they will put plenty of pressure on braid. Braids are more tangle prone. With a slow action rod and a bit of mono you'll have plenty of forgiveness with the braid. Find Members Posts. A soft tip rod is far better but i'd say thats the same for using braid or mono. 5 Mono is available in a range of bright colours – ideal for field casting. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. 50lb braid is "standard" for frogging but it will still dig in on a big hookset or if you try to pull out a snag with the rod. Click here to read about the best spinning reels and here to … Heavier (bigger diameter) line will not dive as deep. Sometimes she lets me go fishing:clap3: Definately mono for me. think its more a case of diameter mate .35 you wont go wrong for some lines thats 15lb while others it can be as much 20lb hope it helps. While I disagree with most of what you have said, it is not the point of my post to debate who is right or wrong. Do you modify your ringing on the rod to accomodate the fixed spool? With mono you get a good bend in your rod and you also get more instances where the fish hooks itself as once once freed from the bed by the fish your lead heads off down tide hooking the fish as it does so. Braid is strong and sensitive, but not invisible, while mono is stretchy, invisible, and cheap, but also thick, has memory, and not very strong. Mono has the better potential to catch the tide and keep the bow in the line, of which of course you need for uptiding or cheaper thick braid. You should change your mono every season whereas braid can last for 3-4 seasons and more. Here are the basics: Braid will allow you to fit more line on your spool, therefore, having more line or heavier lb test to fight a fish. For me mono in those coditions but braid sure does pay when after bream and plaice on the boat , you are able to feel every tug and pull. Glad its settled- that's conclusive then . Mono is transparent in the water so the fish are less likely to see it. If you have equal rated braid vs mono (in lbs), the braid will allow the lure to run deeper. This will make you visit the fishing shop more often to get a new line, and in the long run, it is possible to spend more money in mono than you would spend if you bought braid in the first place, which makes the braid the most profitable option. Braid diameter is much thinner for the comparable breaking strains. Imafisher46. I use 30lb straight through, no leader required as it's only a lob up tide, and no leader means 1 less knot to give, pick up weed, get stuck on the tip ring when retrieving or the level wind when casting. Braid. What strengths /diameter do you favour? :fish::fish: Now now, lets get this right, I think the words DIRTY TRICKS come to mind, firstly the fact that John (Aquabell) could only be bothered to set 1 rod up for himself, was a ploy to leave himself with an excuse "we wasn't fishing as many rods as you 2", the fact we had 3 against 2 in the banter stakes, John-Steve-Alan Vs Myself-John, we was under constant duress from the mono-tones, "don't cut yourself on the piano wire lads", "rusting line" etc etc. Braid will also allow for better sensitivity as it has less stretch than mono. My view is that they both work, I like pred-stretched mono .35dia, Tubertini Blue is a good one, use a leader. 03-29-2020, 03:57 PM #3. Re match sounds good, we could then the debate the virtues of uptide versus downtide, the various combinations are limitless. Although diameters vary, 10 lb mono has the same diameter as 30lb braid. 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